"if you take him in what he sees as a personal matter of honor and vengeance, he's likely to see you not as a legitimate champion, but an interloper. Worse, it will rub his loss in his face ... and then there will be TWO folks he's mad about." A look to Symon "And.. I think the 'blinded to common sense' might be a matter. Though.. if one were to threaten him WITH furhter shame, if it didn't make an enemy it might cause him to balk. We're not cookie cutter. Obviously some Daireann are very different or Miss Anne Marie's removal of one to another wouldn't matter"