"But the point does remain that I don't think the Liam are always right, nor are their policies and if I think you're letting your upbringing blind you to that possilbity, I'm doing you a diservice as a vassal and counselor. I shouldn't have said it in front of others though. Also, well, that's MY House's problem" A sigh "But it's certainly been baited and that's put me in a cranky mood"