And guys... I'll be honest with you. PC versus PC conflict beyond a certain level ? That's not in my style of game play/STing. I got fucked hard up the ass before because folks took OOC issues out ICly in the name of rp conflict with no escape clause. You guys do you but for me? NO thank you. Did not work. Killed Changeling for me. Never again and I don't enjoy it. Rivervale is Rahne's setting... I just borrow, but I've seen the 'conflict makes a great story' excuse used too many times to kill fun. It is technically true, works welll in fiction, AFTER a certain point , it works not so great in my RP experiences; I'm sure others have had less trouble with it. But I've been burned too many times in the name of IC conflict so It's not my bag and I won't be making it a main part of my storylines. You want details, you'll have to PM me. But I'm sorry if I'm not giving you the gaming you want- but it's got to be fun for me too or what's the point?