I'm a bobble head tonight Looks at nods Anyway... it goes beyond that If I recall, in the Book of Houses, it mentions that sometimes members of houses KNOW they have Liams in the making, and try to 'save them' from joining Liam...which I'm not sure is possible, but the Liams take that #### very seriously and get their normally pacifist stuff to the side there. They're not such a large house they can let others get away with trying to 'rehouse' them