"No, no, his ..ideas of honor aren't broken.. they're ..just bent under the weight of the guilt that he wasn't there to stop it. As for Harvald, I don't know.. MAYBE a chicanery Cantrip backfired and drove him wild with lust and rage that wasn't his own... MAYBE.. maybe he didn't see who he thought... or maybe Harvald just lost to his own inner demons and did one act that was pure evil however we want to spin it... but he's dead. He'll be reborn free of it. .. and the Living Can't be slaves to the dead. Not their good names, not their honor, not anything. Clem wants us to move forward on somethings while holding to the good- she's a good chief, but... first we have to make sure we don't confuse pride or guilt for honor. We need..awareness. "