"Oh, yeah, can you hold this box closed while I tape? It's being a pain." As they work, she continues, "So, keep in mind that I was really little. Like...maybe five? But...well, when your dad was gone for years, your mom was really, really sad. I mean...it got really bad. I remember days where the Lodge was really quiet 'cuz she was in a deep brood by the 'fire." She pauses. "I don't remember actually seeing her ever smile back then. Not even a grin."