"They took our heritage, Frank. Then, having 'subdued us', having promised to provide for us in exchange for loyalty, they ran.... and not just a few, what, one hand a half houses maybe stayed? That means that all them that are falling back into bodies, at some time, were part of that great betrayal, each one. Add to that the night of iron knives that some of them took part in and more had to know about... damn, Frank. I can't see how we can afford to ignore the past. Maybe I'm old and set in my ways. Thyle has been a respite for me, a second home where the war wasn't lost and troll dreams weren't something you had to slide under the radar." Torth says// There's a look from one fellow who, is not attractive, and is older than the new hearth, who says "point of order?" /The Headman turns, "Eaves Dropping is rude, Jaksa. But what?" /The young man says "Clearly some sidhe don't have a problem with lodges or your own brother wouldn't have been tending to a lodge. Our ways continue, even in the Fallen lands. Maybe even sidhe can learn?"//"This is Jaska, wise ass mountain in training who seems to have to much of the blood that makes you take opposing sides for the hell of it. He doesn't hate Sidhe"//"How can I hate them? I've never met one. The thralls? They dont' even know who they are?" Jaska says "How can we complain about their wiping away our old ways wwhen we do it here to them? Shouldn't we have higher standards?"//"This is why no one else wanted you in their lodge, Jaska. I'm a Storm, I just want to punch things and protect my own. May drink a little." //Jaska sighs "That's an evasion. What's the counter point?"//"Kid's not a troll, he's a damn vulcan." Grumble