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January 4th, 2022
catnik
11:35am
I swear, they're nearly Rivervale.
earldebuke
11:36am
Oh with more than one role overlapping yes.
earldebuke
11:38am
I suppose Siv is Felix to Piper as Pepa when PIper's in a mood?
Chuckle
Maybe not
rae
11:38am
I forget who Felix is
rae
11:39am
Doesn't diegetic just mean that it's part of the world and heard by the characters (as opposed to background music)?
catnik
11:41am
correct
catnik
11:41am
so... no, the
characters
are not breaking into song
rae
11:41am
:face_with_raised_eyebrow:
rae
11:41am
isn't that exactly what they are doing?
rae
11:42am
heh
catnik
11:42am
except they aren't
catnik
11:42am
they are, but they aren't
earldebuke
11:42am
Felix is Mirabel's uncle who married in the family, married Pepa whose mood affects the weather 🙂
rae
11:42am
right, I like Felix! He is so good natured
catnik
11:42am
damn Russians!
rae
11:42am
Oh, is this something we can blame on the Varich?
rae
11:42am
works for me
catnik
11:42am
It is!
earldebuke
11:43am
See, I kind of LIKE the idea that Mirabel's power is causing others to sing their feelings broadway style , and yet no one realizes it
catnik
11:43am
2000 years of presentational, symbolic, abstract theatre
earldebuke
11:43am
🙂
catnik
11:43am
And nope, all comes crashing down with naturalism
rae
11:44am
OKay, I get it now.When a song occurs naturally in the film (played on the radio, or a band, etc) it is diegetic. But when the character sings it as though aware they are in a musical, it is not?
catnik
11:44am
Typically!
rae
11:44am
😄
catnik
11:44am
There ARE musicals with diagetic songs
rae
11:44am
Will this be on the test?!
catnik
11:44am
or a mix!
earldebuke
11:44am
No one told me there would be a test!
panics
catnik
11:45am
Like - the chicago FILM has the songs explicitly done as dream sequences or stage performances
catnik
11:45am
Cabaret has a mix - but the songs performed at the club are diagetic
rae
11:45am
This is where you get mad at me
rae
11:45am
I haven't seen either 😄
catnik
11:45am
No worries
rae
11:45am
Thane Austen, LOL
catnik
11:46am
In the Buffy "Once More, With Feeling" episode, all the songs are diagetic, but are also caused by a musical theatre demon, sooooo
earldebuke
11:47am
Musical Theatre Demon sounds like an Indie band name
rae
11:47am
LURKING
catnik
11:48am
Modern western theatre & film are dominated by realism. So we're used to it. But as part of theatrical tradition as a whole, it's relatively recent.
catnik
11:48am
You can also blame the Italians, to an extent.
earldebuke
11:48am
The more I watch Encanto the more i like Dolores.
catnik
11:48am
I like all of them! I want a TV show.
rae
11:49am
Bruno 4eva
catnik
11:49am
I am also reading a fan fic right now about the family during the time they are rebuilding Casita and trying to figure otu who they are without their gifts
catnik
11:49am
Julieta and Luisa are
hot messes
earldebuke
11:49am
Bruno my fave. Luisa and Dolores tied I thinkn for second. But almost all of them are cool/fun
rae
11:50am
Bruno favorite, followed by the trio of village kids hopped up on caffeine
earldebuke
11:50am
"And this is why Coffee is for grownups" YANK
catnik
11:50am
hee
rae
11:50am
On my first watch, I was very disappointed that they got their gifts back. I was hoping they would learn to work together and that they didn't need magic to follow their passions
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