#ooc

Isn't Berman moving to DS9 the reason Gates McFadden went back to ST TNG ? or one of the reasons?

(I Hated Pulaski the character, so glad Beverly came back)

Berman is part of why Denise Crosby left, too

I did not know that. 😞

I do know Denise was feeling her character wasn't given much to do. Which I can see.

Yeup.

And look at how the ladies in TNG are written

Oh yes, with Yar out of the way, you had mostly just 'nurturing' roles for the women. Counselor, Doctor

Ayup

Part of why I loved Ro so much

Ro was awesome.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Kira came to be, but I can see why Ro almost got a spin off.

agreed

I love that she 'shot' Riker through the head while ghosting

Berman I think was also behind the Sexy Girl mandate

and I LIKE Riker 🙂

(T'pol, Seven)

Dax was supposed to be the Sexy Girl - he had Farrell fitted for a f'ing masectomy bra so she'd have DDs

I don't mind Seven so much... good character development. My only problem with her was she just sort of shoved Torres to the side too much

But T'Pol as the sex kitten bugged me. and I LIKE attractive women. I kept saying "VULCAN. Do you not understand VULCAN" but that was the writer, not the actress. I like romance, but not every female character needs to hook up

And I say this as a guy who remembers the cheesecake on Buck Rogers in the 25th Century FONDLY, but it has to fit the character

I like Seven - the actress did wonders with her. But the catsuit-corset thing is allll on th eproducers

Yup. "It's all cybernetic, a part of her"

suuure it is

yeah

also

C'MON. She looks GREAT.

SHe does. Attractive lady

But then, I actually notice even a lot of guys weere nodding when Troi got out of the PJs and into a uniform on TNG

I like cat suits fine but it's not like the uniforms couldn't be form fitting

yup

Mostly it makes me sad that Kate Mulgrew lashed out at Jeri Ryan over it making the newbie miserable

But to Kate's credit, she later admited she had been wrong to do so, and that Jeri was a complete professional just doing what the directors and writers asked of her

Voyager's cast did not have a lot of friendships forming I hear

yeah

Kim got bullied terribly

because in addition to being a creep and slimeball, Berman is ALSO a homphobe!

I do not like the Brady bunch, but my respect for the actress that played Mrs. Brady went up when I discovered she was covering for her Co-Star and worked to make sure everything was easier for him. Given how old the show is, that's amazing.

I did not know that

I could be mixing it up with another show, but I think so

I think you are correct. The actor who played Mr. Brady was tres gay.

Oh, here's IMDB's comment on it

Robert Reed was a closeted gay man. Florence Henderson noticed early on that he appeared uncomfortable acting romantically with her, and he admitted the truth to her privately. They worked around it, rehearsing kissing and hugging scenes off-camera, so they would look more natural when it came time to film them. The entire cast kept Reed's sexual orientation a secret until after his death.

she was a classy lady

Props there.

As for Star Trek ladies. I think Kira might be my favorite DS9 character period (Though I do like Quark and Nog).

I'm Kira/Odo.

ohhh

all of trek?

Probably still Worf.