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June 20th, 2020
catnik
8:41am
ha!
catnik
8:41am
☕
earldebuke
9:54am
Hi. Only here for an hour then off for probably 3
catnik
10:04am
hihi
earldebuke
10:07am
Nerf Anne Marie, she's OP!
catnik
10:07am
nooooo
earldebuke
10:09am
How are you?
rae
10:23am
In bed still. La aaaaaazy
rae
10:25am
Must get up to water plant babies
catnik
10:25am
i should go to the notary
rae
10:25am
See if store had tomato wire
catnik
10:25am
instead, I am shitting on DW Griffith
rae
10:25am
?
catnik
10:26am
mmm, facebook
rae
10:26am
Ah
catnik
10:26am
the "heritage" people
catnik
10:26am
the rebel flag is really only popular because of its use by the KKK
earldebuke
10:27am
Uhmm
catnik
10:27am
and the modern KKK is explicitly tied to Birth of a Nation
catnik
10:27am
No, seriously - it didn't see much use between the war and the earl 20th century
earldebuke
10:27am
Depends. A whole generation grew up on the Dukes of Hazard and Lynyrd Skynnard
catnik
10:28am
Yup, and both of them inherited the flag from its resurgence via the KKK
earldebuke
10:29am
What I'm saying is those two uses were naive and relatively innocent uses of the symbol that did not consciously promote white supremecy . Clearly the racists won, but one might see it as an attempt to 'redeem' the symbol that ultimately failed
catnik
10:29am
That specific flag - the northern VA battle flag/2nd naval jack - was never an official flag of the confederacy, but became popularized by the DoC and the KKK.
earldebuke
10:29am
Yes. I know.
catnik
10:30am
So, anyhow - shitting on DW Griffith
catnik
10:30am
hell, I like dukes of hazzard and lynyrd skynard
earldebuke
10:31am
Well, it was a fun show and good music
catnik
10:31am
I'm also not one to say somebody should, like, go back and blur the top of the general lee. I don't think Birth of a Nation should be censored.
earldebuke
10:33am
I would be okay with a brief 'warning' that the symbol is in there before the show starts?
earldebuke
10:33am
Forewarned and forearmed
catnik
10:34am
but man, I was also struck by how some of the specific fear-mongering in it parses exactly to what the MAGA hats are bitching about today
catnik
10:34am
Yeah - I wanna say WB does that with their old cartoons?
earldebuke
10:35am
OH yeah, some of the WW2 propaganda toons period are ... ah, well, they were at WAR but DEFINITE deliberate demonetization of the enemy and quite racist.
catnik
10:35am
"Slurs getting FREE STUFF!" "Helpless whites persecuted by slurs!" "The government taken over by minorities!"
catnik
10:36am
"The ANARCHY of (liberal) rule!" - since this is when Republicans were the libs.
earldebuke
10:37am
You know what? When I'm a dirty old man at 80, if I see beaches filled with hard bodied bi-racial and multi-racial babes, I will be totally okay with that.
earldebuke
10:38am
Some folks are acting like a minority majority country is doomsday.
Sigh
catnik
10:38am
Why, it's almost like we treat minorities badly or something...
earldebuke
10:40am
Human nature wins out. Not all Minorities are going to agree... not all people in the same minority agree. And it's just stupid that folks act like the Borg are invading
Sigh
catnik
10:43am
well, yeah. Human beings.
earldebuke
10:44am
And yes, a lot of UGLY history does not get enough airing. I didn't know about Tulsa/Black Wall Street until a few years ago and most white folks are only learning about it now thanks to a TV show in HBO.
catnik
10:44am
Might be why I get so frustrated, dunno. There are people I love who have gone down the rabbit hole about "libtards" and "antifa" and how "BLM is racist"
earldebuke
10:45am
If they object to racists in a group they really shouldn't be GOP 😉
catnik
10:48am
Yeah
earldebuke
10:49am
Sorry, the bullshit does get to me. "There are good and bad people on bothsides" ... 😠
earldebuke
10:50am
Yeah.... that guy shouldn't vandalize that store front.. and THAT guy... shouldn.t oh. I don't know, celebrate the genocide of 12 million people and want to do it again?
earldebuke
10:50am
There is no equivalency here
catnik
10:51am
yeah, but, well, different rules for different sides.
earldebuke
10:52am
Yeap.
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