On the other hand, I'm reminded of a novel where two armyunits go at it. One of them is a ragtag type... has a Filipo trained in stick fighting.... has to go up in a fencing contest against a master fencer on the 'elite ' team. The fencer wins, because of the rules einvolved.. .but it's obvious to the ragtags and everyone the stick fighter woulda KILLED him in a right fight