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ACK...I forgot a complication to my schedule...I have a meeting at 7-9pm tonight. So I'll be available in the afternoon, but not available as much as I would have liked in the evening. 😞

Ah, RL strikes again

I have heard Castro give a speech before so was not surprised he stood out. Booker gave a great show as you guys said. I still don't know if he passes on the 'walk the talk' side of things given his past with big pharma and such, but the talk IS good. Beto crumbled. Kloubahur (sp) had a good dig in about the women at that stage having done a little something on behalf of rights for other women but other wise I was mmm 'that's nice' at best with her. Warren came in STRONG first third, faded in the middle (As she let the others slug out the border issues) but over all I agree she felt like the grown up stuck to sit at the kids' table. Delany is not going to win, but he did ask some harder questions of his peers than the reporters did and that serves a purpose and Warren and the others need to have answers on funding and the like ready because the GOP will NOT Hold back about it.

Tulsi Gabbard didn't screw up, but I'm not sure she got herself out of the hole either. I do respect her resolve.

yup

Overall I think you're right, a lot of these guys need to be running for senate asap 🙂

yup

damn the turtle

Mitch is a nasty piece of work.

Castro might also be a good VP pick

Sure

I just really don't want Biden

I'd really prefer not to have an octogenarian

I don't think Biden would be a BAD president, but I do think he would be an utterly lack luster nom for president. To put it mildly, I don't think he would get butts out of seats to vote nearly as much as Bernie or Warren would.

Which means I think he'd lose because when folks are NOT motivated to vote, democrats lose.

IMO anyway

The age thing doesn't bug me as much, but with both he and Bernie I admit it makes the VP choices matter more

Yeah

I reaaalllllyyyyy like Warren

I do like Bernie better than his Bros, though.

the fandom mostly sucks

While I tend to think 'Bernie Bros' was somewhat exaggereted by the Clinton camp (Not made up whole cloth mind you) I DO Think it says something that a month ago I was Sanders for pres or Warren... now I'm Warren for Prez... or Sanders. 🙂 She's got an edge on him for me now.

Of course he might pull ahead tonight

So, I reddit - which is already a pretty treacherous place as a woman

On some subreddits I hear it's down right scary

good god, they are everywhere there, and obnoxious, and STILL bringing up Clinton

it is

more for the... "Holy shit, someone like this exists"

Ha. Oh I don't need Reddit .. I have my state Sad Trump support is strong here... so very scary.

Drives me NUTS that some of his strongest supporters, his most loyal here, are elderly women.

I want to say "you do realize he has utterly no respect for your entire sex?"

Yeah

Then again folks around here are like "Folks should take care of themselves... oh here's my check from the State for my medical problems"

And I'm ready to beat my head against a wall

But back to your point, I am sorry some Bernie Bros just cant' let go. That ain't healthy for the head or for political gains

Oh, the hypocrisy is always my favorite part

SO much here.. I mean 'not all Tennesseans' etc etc, but enough of them do it and don't even realize it it makes me nuts.

And I'm seeing some rumbles about Warren that remind me a lot of Clinton. "Oh, I'd vote for a woman, but not THAT one..."

Some of them are relatives of mine.

Yeah, I got my share of trump cultists in the family

Mostly my stupid redneck cousins

and... I mean, they are stupid, I'm sorry. I got some real white trash in the mix.

I don't GET That... whatever you think of Clinton or Warren, even the quickest google search would show they have different backgrounds, different policies. Why woudl anyone think they're interchangeable just becuase they're both women?

I hear you and sympathize.

well, it's that Warren isn't "electable"

And that she's only a "weak copy" of Bernie

And yet she's in Congress (Regarding the first)

Oh I will bang the 'go Bernie go' drum all day long, but Warren has been hammering away for consumer protection and more on her own for a while now when she needs to, and with allies when she can get them.

Warren's work on consumer protection predates her ever holding an office

she's fantastic