#ooc

That's a blow to her pride no matter what.

It is

But calling August, gloating with 1122?

Salt in the wound.

I don't think Jude has a gloat in him.

Honestly, I really read that has him -complimenting- 1122 (and Zara).

You could see the same in what Thea did with the trolls. She was polite, till they were rude.

She was not.

............

The Kestrel thing?

They were not rude or angry until AFTER she declared she was taking their ship.

She COULD have called their parents/Baroness.

That didn't even come up. She jumped straight to "steal the ship."

Did you see the bits in <#C9EJS3QAK|> at NA with Adelaide and Thea?

A little.

No, it didn't come up; she thought about it, projected forward, and decided to go with the ship.

*nod*

And that was a miscalculation.

Because THAT made an impression that "call the teenagers' parents on Samhain" didm't.

"Help the noble hold, get kicked in the face" was the lesson.

Sylvi was already of a modernist bent, but Dagmar was not.

*chuckle* Well, not like Rivervale was a fertile spot for Thea ANYWAY. And it amused her. And it IS a good lesson.

"Don't trust sidhe"?

I mean, for Dagmar at least, it reinforced a lot of bad lessons.

No, the lesson further down the line for the Wilders.

"If you risk yourself for someone else, all you bring is trouble." "It doesn't matter if you do good, you'll be punished anyway."

"Authority is capricious and powerful."

I don't know how Not-Tanya's emergence would be different if NA hadn't happened, but I think it might have been. "It doesn't matter if you are strong, you're still powerless."

"Here, in case you missed that lesson, watch a sidhe kill your friend AND declare ownership of you."

Nah, the OTHER lesson down the line.

Are you saying those aren't lessons Dagmar would pick up?

Oh, she might. I'm talking about the long term lessons that the Wilders can't see from where .they are but Thea has lived through.

are you going to share? 😛

"Not everything you know in your youth is true, or right, or just, or valid." // "It is possible to be wrong when you are young."

I don't see it.

No?

No

That the world is unjust and cruel? Dagmar already knows that one.

That most actions are futile? She knows that, too. That truth, being right, what's fair... that none of those matter in the face of power? She knows that, too.

Are there things you KNEW as a teen that you now know aren't? Or are, but not quite like that?

I don't see how toying with them teaches that lesson.

Kind Thea is just as Thea as Mean Thea. But, we can play that out. (Maybe.)

Maybe

Dagmar learned that Thea is Not Safe.

This is not incorrect.

So Dagmar won't be seeking her out.

Dagmar's already had a lot of hard lessons, some of which she would be better off unlearning.

Nothing you learn is wasted.

Maybe

But "You are powerless" and "Action is futile" are not ones good for longevity as a fae.