#ooc

Yay!

I was hoping to catch Val on for a question about Mage.

Guessing Fang is the only one here conversant with crossover rules?

Fang and Fey both know mage pretty well

Kay. I rarely see Fey around. Gromph.

I'll check with them, though. Thanks. 🙂

The question basically came down to...Changelings take mundane damage both mortally and chimerically...

No

only if Iron is in the mix

Pretty sure that's not the case....if you shoot a Changeling down to Incapacitated with a gun, their Fae mien isn't going to be up and walking aorund.

but it isn't -chimerical- damage

But it affects both Seemings.

How can you be perfectly healthy chimerically and near death mortally?

But...for purposes of this question it may matter.

If both real and chimerical damage are taken, the
penalties from only the worst wound should be assessed,
not from both. It should also be noted that chimerical and
real wounds are not cumulative. In other words, if a
character is lowered to Injured by a chimerical sword, and
is later Bruised by a “real” fst, the character would still
only be Injured. The Bruised box would simply be marked
with an X, not a slash

If the mortal damage is healed with Life, and not Spirit, if it heals both.

Hrm. WHich page is that? I need to mark it.

I see that.

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But it doesn't mean you aren't taking both. It just means you aren't going to die from being punched if you're chimerically incapacitated, I don't think.

Oy. Hrm

You only take hits on both from cold iron

you STILL have the penalty of real damge, even if you have no chimerical damage

And cold iron deals penalties to your glamour, too

because it is the worst

So what would a Fae see? The reverse of what mortals see if they are seeing a mortal taking chimerical damage? A healthy Fae writhing around if their mortal body has a broken leg, even if they don't?

The fae would see the broken leg. Because they see both.

You know what I mean? Where a mortal holds their arm as if broken because the Fae seeming took a chimerical hit from a mace.

But the Fae mien would not be damaged, just acting as if it were.

in a way - it's only in 1st ed that changelings "switch"

I -think- I kind of get what you mean.

in 2nd, they're... overlapped?

What was it in 1st?

I am wondering if I am mixing up rules.

Changelings in 2nd ed have their fae mien and mortal seeming overlap

Which makes sense, yeah.

they "see" their fae side first - kind of like, say, Sam Beckett in Quantum Leap

Mortals see the seeming. Other Leapers see Sam. Al, the Chimera, sees Sam

Right...unless their banality is higher than Glamour. Got it.

Right!

Okay, think I kind of get it. The Fae seeming can't override it, though? Here is what I mean...

And then the mien gets... faded, or thin, or translucent until it is hidden - no glamour.

You are taking mortal damage from, say, a knife. And losing blood, down to near death.

Yup

Does that mean, if the Fae side is NOT taking damage...that if you Wyrd, callign the Fae Seeming to the fore...you are back at full?

Your fae mien is vibrant, but you are still pulling wound penalties

no

because you are affected by the highest penalty

Okay. So having the Wyrd there means you are still -both-,

Yup