#ooc

Either way. 🙂

Maybe because everyone knows Liam are the "safe" dog to kick

Oh wait.. holy snot, the +1 penality is gone for Eiluned

At least if I'm reading this right

man

We have to like Akanthea now? Nooooo

Once you go Skunk, all other women are junk

Likesay, not changing just because they wanted to pee on the game and leave their mark this time.

Too much RP has gone before due to those exact penalties.

And has been explained as being due to House.

Interesting some of the changes they have made. The only one I think is too damn overboard is Dougal's flaw

So far... haven't looked at them all

See, this is exactly what I worried would happen. Instead of clarifying the rules, they are changing things around.

That happened with every 20th thing really

These penalties and flaws create a theme and mood for each House.

Yeah, but it's lame.

Well, to be fair, Jeremy is a sluagh AND an Oathbreaker

Thea always played up the 'untrustworthy' aspect well, and I tried to play up the treachery aspect -- both House related, both worth minuses.

Sorry, not buying the changes.

You did it well

Thanks.

Well, I'm definitely going to try this all table top and see how it works out.

Let us know?

Sure.

I think the advantage of 'starting afresh' is it won't be jarring like it would be in an established setting.

Probably. And it gives you two versions to choose from, if you don't like the latest.

You can always revert in TT

True. Firnost is going to be interesting. We're going to have to adhere very strongly to the 'live and let live' angles

Yup

Don't take this personally...but I kind of snort at people who yell "oooh, new shiny! Must use this!"

But I drive used cars.

What makes something newer, better or mandatory?

The one I feel sorry for is Liz. She's tried very hard to make her Thallian playable, but I've heard (have not read yet) is that Thallian are going even more evil

How can they?

Which I would be for, normally in MY games...but sucks for her

I don't.

Liz is not a goblin.

Make a nocker already

They're not just Double Unseelie legacied, they have Thallian LEgacies now? Extra evil

Yeah. She doesn't play goblin, sorry to say.

I think she's turned into a custom kith I shall dub... "Goblyn" Which is is one of the Redeemed, Thallian that somehow have started to escape back to the Tuathan dream

Along with Oger (instead of Ogre) and so on 😉

reads Oh thank the Dreaming. The Varich no longer suffer from that silly WP drain for everytime they refuse ANY challenge.

Which after fifteen plus years the Sluagh would have learned by now and used to kill them

Well, that goes for Eshu too.

Can't refuse a challenge, IIRC, or not supposed to, anyway.

Dare, I mean

Softened the Leanhuan flaw, too

Looks like the Fiona have the 'can't play it safe' thing now