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But that doesn't mean it can't be done right.

Valid, and fitting the game, are different. A clumsy sluagh who can't shut up is technically valid.

I am not seeing the argument that there is something wrong with a fae reflecting Jedi dreams any more than samuri or shining knight or tolkein...

And a prostititute that only does BJ's is technically a virgin, too.

Kitty WAS more one of those people that completely shattered the rules just because.

Is a clumsy sluagh any less valid that an asshole, rude sluagh?

Not saying it can't be done right, but I like Changeling because of the feel and theme.

Yes, a clumsy blabbermouth sluagh IS valid, and viable, because PCs are protagonists.

If everyone brings in Jedi and black midget trolls, it's not Changeling, it's 'Let's play something else using Changeling rules kinda.'

YES Zara. *grin*

The problem with a setting like firnost is the lack of background NPCs, "establishment" characters

Bullshit

Heck, we have a chosen one Jedi hero in changeling... his name was High King David. Dangerous childhood? Check. Sword made of light? Check. 🙂

brb, work

Sluagh, you may just need to accept that other people have views on how characters can be created, and their views are just as valid as yours. Or, decide not to play with them. It's up to you.

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(God, I love that slack command, /shrug)

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HA

happiness!

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If they're all the same, they're boring. But I do have to admit if someone made a character that was exactly like a character from a movie it wouldn't last.

Rae, see what happens when we see a new toy?

hehehe

Remember slackbot, oh boy

Rae, bite me.

You are so self-righteous sometimes.

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You'd have a human shell knowing they weren't that character and having a crisis of judgment.

Arguing for the sake of it.

We see a fair amount of variety in the kiths when looking at canon NPCs. Don't see why PCs should be restricted to the most stringent ideas of what they are stereotyped as.

Because, the fact is, you CAN have variety without going outside of canon.

Hear Hear, Zara.

Good players should be able to, without changing it because it's 'technically valid'.

If you need a gimmick? That's a problem, VIABLE or not.

I like having a hook. That isn't a gimmick, it is finding an angle to explore.

Shades, you used to agree with me, what the hell?

14 years passed? *grin*

Yeah, I would have thought you'd see improvement.

Well, I don't think it's worth getting ourselves too worked up over either way.

Not 'anything goes now'.

I agree, having a hook is not the same thing as having a gimmick.

And agreed as well, Mr. D.

As long as we keep the feel of the game, which DOES include the typical kiths.

And should be the majority.

Again: modded games, table top games, games with storytellers, HAVE NPCs.

Just because Jer is nice, say, I don't want all PC's changing the CtD view on sluagh to be "Oh, they're not so bad."

Because you WANT to sometimes play pariahs.

FWOOM

Heh. Neat Rae