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"Well, there were people against slaves then."

"So ain't like he didn't hear it was wrong."

"Like I said, not my strong point in history" She says "The whole trade was ugly from little I do know, but I do know it's been part of history all the world over for centuries and some still goes on today"

"Still wrong." Harrumph.

"Yes. But do we want to judge folks for what they did wrong, or what they did right? "

"Well, depends on what they did wrong."

"John Adams didn't have slaves."

"No, but he didn't have a plantation either. The north had slaves to I've heardk, but never as much. Mostly because they didn't make as much money from it. People will rationalize a lot of horror in the pursuit of the almighty dollar"

A sigh "mortals can be that way"

"If your business depends on slaves you shouldn't fucking do it."

"Agreed" She nods

"it was wrong of Africans to sell other Africans to Yankee traders. It was wrong of New Englanders to bring the boats to the south and sell the kidnapped africans, and it was wrong of the South to buy them and use them on plantations. All wrong"

"But I don't want to hate them all after all this time. I just want to learn how to be better."

"Well, I hate Thomas Jefferson."

"I hate hearing about how great he was in school and being told welllll just forgive what he did because he did good stuff too."

"Because he wasn't ever sorry for the bad stuff he did."

"So I don't think it balances. Because that's what always happens - important people get away with bad stuff because they're popular or well connected or rich, and their victims just have to suck it up and deal."

"With great power comes great responsibility. Yes, a shame that's not followed more. But I think hate for a deadman is a waste of your energy and time. Just make sure to keep others from doing the bad things he did. Live in the now and hope for a brighter tomorrow."

"Well, it doesn't take much effort to hate him. I got other stuff to do most of the time."

"Like being amazing" A smile

"Hmph."

"And you know something, while you do need to learn about historical figures of al l sorts, you are well within your right to pick your OWN heroes."

"Now Harriet Tubman has a movie coming out, now she was ..she was amazing"

"I read about her, yeah. SHE is cool."

"Apparently she was like a super spy for the Union as well as a guide to get slaves to the north"

"Oh yeah. You ever watch Drunk History?"

"Drunk..history?" Clearly she has not "This is about times histoical figures got drunk?"

"No - they get historians drunk, have them tell stories, then act them out!"

For a moment, the woman's eyes widen, then she ..snerks. "For real?"

"Yeah! Wanna see?"

"Yes, actually" She says

"C'mon!" Excited.

She follows "Okay. Who are we learning about today? How many episodes are there?"

"Lots? But Harriet Tubman, first. Bad bitches."

"Like it already" She says "You want me to get popcorn while you get drinks or?"

"Oh, just watch!"

"Okay. HIt play"

Oh course, one video has to follow the first... then another...

They may burn 3 hours fast. Tove laughs a great deal at the slurring and mispeaks by the drunk historians "Oh I have been there... trying to tell tales when folks keep buying you rounds"

"It's funny."

"A little raunchy, but educational" She agrees, "I approve."

"Glad you do."

"Mmm" Pleased by something else "mind if I watch new episodes with you? When they come on?"

"We could do that, sure."

"Good." Pleased

And as three hours have passed, she sighs "I should get back to dinner. And song selections. I'll put Wait for it on my cover list"

"Oh, right. Sorry!"

"No no, I loved the show and my time with you watching it'

"Well. Okay."

"And I liked the Bad Bitches Episode the most out of those but they were all good" She says